CO129-590-11 Commission of Enquiry into irregularities in Immigration Departments 22-4-1941 - 19-12-1941 — Page 223

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Fourth day - Thursday, 27th March, 1941.

Council Chamber 10 a.m.

Present: His Honour Sir Alasdair Duncan Atholl MacGregor, Chief Justice,

Mr. Charles Bernard Brown, A.C.A., J.P.,

Mr. David Drummond, J.P.,

Mr. Woo Hang-kam, Ll.B., J.P.,

(Chairman).

Mr. Kenneth Myer Arthur Barnett,J.P., (Secretary).

Mr. R.A.D. Forrest, Immigration Officer, attended.

Chairman to Mr. J.D. McClatchie: You are one of the officers of the

Hong Kong and Shanghai Bank Mr. McClatchie?

A.

Yes.

Q Mr. von Kobza-Nagy told us yesterday that he went to the bank with

the intention of opening a new account. He got a signature card

which I will show you in a moment and he printed thereon "General

Agency Immigration Department" and he put on the required speciman

signature. He told us that when he made that submission to you you

suggested that it would be better from your point of view if instead

of having the account under that title he called it Kobza Art Studios

No.2 is that correct?

A.

That is so.

Q.

Is this the card?

A. (After examining it) Yes, that is it.

Q.

A.

Mr. Kobza, are there any questions which you wish to put to Mr.

McClatchie?

No, but yesterday when you Lordship told me to put down the name of

persons who might put up security for me I said I would not like to

appragch anyone. Yesterday I was not in a position to do it but I

am now in the position and I have brought with me a cheque.

Q. This does not affect Mr. McClatchie?

A. Not at all.

Chairman:

A.

Then Mr. McClatchie you may go and thank you.

Mr. Kobza, you say that now, operating on the evidence you

gave us yesterday you are in a position to give security in the sum

of $5000?

I have $3000.

And you have a cheque there as evidence of good faith?

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